So I don\'t even know where to begin. We left Lhasa by 4x4 on the morning of the 18th and arrived in Kathmandu yesterday evening. I spent a few hours last night and this morning scanning through all of your comments and I\'ll try to respond to a few right now. First, as Joakim and others have pointed out, a lot of the photos from the \'Lhasa Burning\' post show people\'s faces and may lead to their arrest. As such, I will be taking these particular photos down - if you think other photos should be taken down for similar reasons please make a comment so that I know about it. I will admit that I struggled with this decision for a little while: many of those shown in the photos were acting little better than violent thugs when the pictures were taken (e.g. in the flag burning photo one of those shown began throwing rocks at others in the hotel moments after I took the picture) so I\'m unsure if they actually deserve any protection from the authorities. That said, I will keep those particular photos off my blog for now. Second, I\'ve read a few comments on this blog and elsewhere (e.g. Swrostmore\'s comment on Digg) insinuating that I may be a Chinese agent. I wouldn\'t normally dignify these accusations with a response but one of the posters who had commented did have a very valid point (my apologies but I can\'t remember who it was). Do not just rely on one source for your information: what I and the others I was with saw does not sum up the entire situation, especially after the 14th, when we were under lockdown without access to the internet and probably knew even less than what you on the outside knew. As an example, yes, I can and I did report that things were quiet where we were located after the 14th. That doesn\'t mean things were quiet throughout the city and just because it was quiet where we were doesn\'t mean things weren\'t going down that I didn\'t know about (e.g. arrests). I can\'t report these other things without stipulating that they are not confirmed because I cannot be sure they actually happened - all I know for sure is that things were quiet where I was. I think it would fair to speculate that we (those of us in the hotel on the 14th and 15th) probably saw more than our fair share of violence being waged by Tibetans while missing the vast majority of violence being waged on Tibetans by the PLA. Third, a huge part of the comments are directed towards the issue of whether or not Tibet should be a sovereign nation and who ultimately bears the blame for this situation. I think I inadvertently became a defender of the Chinese government and its policies in Tibet through my posts highlighting the violence of the rioters: I want to make clear that this was NOT my intention. Tibet is obviously an extremely complex issue and one that I will not pretend to be deeply knowledgeable on. My very simple and ignorant opinion on the topic can be boiled down to this: if a majority of Tibetans want independence from China, I think they should be given it. That said, I do not think violence against ordinary people is justifable (whether or not they are "colonists") and I think the bias of the mainstream media against China is never acceptable, even if the cause is just and worthy. I sincerely believe that lies and manipulation will at the end of the day hurt more than help any movement. The War on Iraq may have had the positive consequence of bringing down a brutal dictator but it will always be remembered more for the lies that started it. Tibet, as I said above, is a complex issue: as I have seen in these protests, it is not simply a matter of the big, bad Chinese government versus the Tibetan underdogs, which is unfortunately how the media has tried to shape this issue. Why we (those in the \'newsroom\' in the hotel on the 14th and 15th) decided to upload the video of the motorcyclist being attacked is because we had seen from the news that this was exactly what was not being reported. We suspected this might be the case from the very start when our photos began to be picked up by the media: my photo of the Chinese soldiers in the shield formation and the Tibetan man burning the Chinese flag might be very powerful, but do they really tell the story of what happened that day any better than a bus of civilians being stoned and a man lying on the pavement after having been brutally attacked? No, but these other photos would have taken too much effort to explain to an audience that has become used to the narrative of a bad China and a good Tibet. So yeah, there was never a hidden agenda. I don\'t think anyone in that room had particularly strong feelings on the issue: all we wanted to do was get the truth out, no matter how complex and how hard it was for people to swallow. And on the subject of the shield formation photo that made it to the front page of the New York Times: I don\'t think any news outlet that has used it has also reported that moments after the photo was taken, Tibetans charged and the line broke, with the soldiers dropping their shields and helmets. A few minutes later when I was taking pictures of their gear and was prepared to follow the crowd that had broken through towards Ramoqe Monastery, a Tibetan woman on her way back told me not to go as someone had been stoned to death there. A few seconds after she said this, the crowd returned and declared their intention to go towards Jokhang Monastery. I never saw any bodies so this, like many other things on this blog, is just speculation: but if what the woman said was true I believe that the first death of the day on the 14th was likely a policeman from that line who was cut off from his comrades (Beijing confirmed the next day that one of the deaths on the 14th was a policeman). Either way, I am as the title states, safe and sound in Kathmandu and am now dodging bags of water instead of rocks (apparantly in the days leading up to Holi people begin target practice by hurling bags of water at foreigners). I have been hit a few times but I am sure you will be happy to know that one of my water tosses absolutely smoked a Nepalese brat who was running away after having hit a motorist and another one of my shots hit the guy in the passenger seat of the car who had been conducting drive-by water tosses on us. It was all very satisfying (though I also hit an innocent bystander once and felt really, really bad). There are about a dozen of us who are actually going to get gear for the big day (e.g. white shirts, goggles). I have also decided to try to not eat meat for the rest of our trip (just over a month). I figure India and Nepal are the places to try it (Tibet would have been good too, but yak is just too delicious to pass up). We\'ll see how long that lasts (I\'m at one day at the moment). About to get soaked as he leaves this internet cafe, K
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我甚至不知道从何说起。我们18号早上乘坐4x4吉普车离开拉萨,昨天晚上抵达加德满都。昨天晚上和今天早上我扫了一遍大家的评论,现在我将就一些评论做出回应:
首先,正如乔金和其他人指出的一样,“燃烧的拉萨”一文中很多照片出现了人们的脸部照片,可能会导致他们被捕。所以我将把这些照片撤下来,如果发现类似的情况请留言告诉我,我会处理。
我承认决定撤下这些照片时我犹豫了一会儿,因为这些照片里的人的行为比凶残的暴徒强不了多少(比如,在我拍下烧国旗的照片后不久,照片中有一个人开始朝旅馆扔石头),所以我不确信这些人是否应该得到任何当局的保护。也就是说我只是暂时从我的博客里撤下这些照片。
其次,我看了这个博客和其他博客(如Swrostmore在digg上的评论)上的一些评论,认为我可能是中国间谍。一般来说我不会回复这些指责,但是有一个人的回帖(很抱歉忘了是谁)很有道理。不要依靠单一的信息来源作出判断,我和跟我一起的人看到的并非整个局势,尤其是14号之后,我们进入了禁闭状态,无法上网,可能比(拉萨)外边的人看到的更少。
是的,比如,我能够而且也确实报道过我们呆的地方14号之后比较平静。但这并不代表整个拉萨都很平静,我们呆的地方平静并不能意味着我不知道的事情会平息下来(比如拘留)。我不会报道我不能确信的事情,因为我不了解这些事情的真相,我所知道的只是我们呆的地方平静。我觉得你可以认为我们(14号、15号和我一起呆在旅馆的人)可能看到了较多藏人发动的暴行,而错过了解放军对藏人实施的暴行。
第三,评论主要集中于西藏是否应该为一个主权国家,以及谁应该为当前的情况负责。我想我无意中成为了中国政府及其西藏政策的辩护者,因为我的文章强调聚众闹事者的暴行。我想澄清我不是有意为之的。西藏问题显然是一个非常复杂的问题,我也不想假装对这个问题非常了解。在这个话题上我的意见简而言之就是:如果大部分藏人想要从中国独立出去,我想他们应得独立。
也就是说,我认为针对平民的暴行是非正义的(不管这些平民是不是“殖民者”),而且我认为即便有正当的理由,即便值得去做,主流媒体对中国的偏见也是永远不可接受的。谎言和欺骗最后会阻碍事情的进展,而不是推动,对此我深信不疑。伊拉克战争从推翻独裁者的角度看带来了积极的结果,但是其在人们脑海中的记忆却永远无法超过发动伊战谎言留下的印记。我上边说过西藏问题是一个复杂的问题。正如我在这些抗议中所见到的情况一样,这绝不仅仅是强大、邪恶的中国政府镇压藏族受害者那么简单,但不幸的是媒体总是竭力这样报道西藏问题。为什么我们(14、15号在“新闻编辑室”里的人)决定把骑摩托车者遭袭的视频传到网上?因为我们发现这正是新闻里没有报道的。从媒体刚开始选择我们上传的照片的时候我们就表示怀疑,在我拍摄的照片里,防护编队里的中国警察和焚烧中国国旗的藏族男子的照片或许非常震撼人心,但是比起描写整个公共汽车的平民遭到石块攻击和一名男子遭野蛮攻击后躺在马路上的照片,这张照片更能说明当天的真相吗?不。但是对于已经习惯于“中国多坏和西藏多好”的描述的人来说,其它的照片显然解释起来更耗时间。所以,没错,这里没什么不可告人的秘密。我认为所有在新闻编辑室里的人在西藏问题上都没有什么过激的情绪,不管问题多么复杂,人们如何难以接受,我们想做的只是揭露真相。
至于那张后来登上《纽约时报》首页的描写防护编队的照片,我想任何使用该照片的新闻媒体同样没有报道照片拍摄之后的情况:藏族人感情亢奋,突破了防线,士兵丢掉了盾牌和头盔。几分钟之后当我正拍摄警察的装备,并准备跟随突破防线的人群去小昭寺时,一个从那里回来的藏族妇女告诉我不要去,因为那里有人被砸死了。她刚说完不久,人群就又回来了,并声称要去大昭寺。我没有看到任何尸体,所以和博客上很多其他东西一样,这都是我的推测,但是如果那个妇女说的是实话,我相信14号第一名死者很可能是一名和其他同事失去联系的警察(第二天北京证实14号的死者当中有一名警察)。
另一方面,正如标题所讲,我在加德满都安然无恙,只不过现在需要躲避的是水袋而不是石块儿(显然为了迎接胡里节【译者pestwave注:印度教的传统大节胡里节。为了表示喜庆和祝福,会向人们身上泼洒五颜六色的颜料,类似中国傣族的泼水节,但是人们泼洒的是颜料】,人们向外国人身上扔水袋,以此当作热身运动)。我中了几次招,但是有件事儿我想你听了肯定高兴,我的一发水弹打中了一个尼泊尔小孩儿,当时这家伙刚袭击了一个乘车者。我另外一发水弹击中了一个企图从汽车上袭击我们的哥们儿。真的非常过瘾(虽然我也打中了一名旁观者,并因此感到非常非常内疚)。我们十好几个人都在为迎接这个盛大的日子准备穿戴物品(比如白衬衣,护目镜等)。
我还决定之后的旅程不再吃肉(大概一个多月吧)。我想在印度和尼泊尔开始实施这个计划(西藏本来也可以实施的,但是牦牛肉的香味让我欲罢不能)。看我们能坚持多久吧(现在是第一天)。
离开这个网吧的时候浑身都快湿透了,
K
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